Are you serious?

Currently:
T2 Point Range: 24 (28.8) km's.
T2 Scram: 9 (10.8) km's.
T2 Web: 10 (13.0) km's

Current Boosts
T2 Point: 36.7 (43.0) km's.
T2 Scram: 13.7 (16.1) km's.
T2 Web: 15.3 (19.3) km's

Proposed Changes:
T2 Point: 33.3 (40.0) km's.
T2 Scram: 12.5 (15.0) km's.
T2 Web: 13.9 (18.0) km's

Best Faction Mod:
Domination Point: 30.0 (36.0) km's
Domination Scram: 11.3 (13.5) km's
Fed Navy Web: 14.0 (18.2) km's

So, the boosts still make every t2 module more powerful than the best faction version... They need to be nerfed more!!!!

About time you put your money where your mouth has been for so long .. debt has grown to astronomical proportions!

As you move forward and look for ways to make links work for the individual (solo Abso's for the win!) and crack the nut of on/off-grid, I'll urge you to consider just how much a single link is worth. Doubly so now that CC's are able to run two types and have weaponry to boot.

In short: One ship augmenting an entire fleet is wrong, that holds true whether it is anchored on grid as a sacrificial lamb or cowering within a POS. Ideally the maximum should be a squad, but practically the wings are probably a better bet .. only capitals/supercapitals should be able to boost up to the full 250 people.

PS: Kind of miffed that Caldari/Amarr alliance does not get skirmish bonuses but I'll live

I've got 4 characters with really solid leadership skills and I'm totally ok with CCP deleting all the leadership skills and not even reimbursing me. At the absolute minimum, gang links are far too powerful and even the nerf that is being discussed isn't nearly powerful enough.

-Liang

So can we all agree that the boosts should be nerfed about twice as much as this?

(The correct answer is yes)

Link nerf V2 plx.

Anyone have thoughts on simply making Fleet boost levels dependent on Fleet Size?

Likewise, Rapid Deployment II (7% base) would give very different bonuses based on your fleet size:

Using something like Base Boost * Mindlink Bonus * Hull Bonus * (1 + Number in fleet * Modifier) = Fleet Boost Bonus?

Example: Rapid Deployment, Mindlinked, CS:

5 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 5 ) = 10.82% increase in speed
10 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 10 ) = 11.57% increase in speed
15 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 15 ) = 12.33% increase in speed
20 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 20 ) = 13.08% increase in speed
30 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 30 ) = 14.59% increase in speed
50 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 50 ) = 17.61% increase in speed
75 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 75 ) = 21.38% increase in speed
100 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 100 ) = 25.16% increase in speed
150 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 150 ) = 32.7% increase in speed
200 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 200 ) = 40.25% increase in speed
250 in fleet: 7 * 1.25 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.015 * 250 ) = 47.8% increase in speed

You obviously haven't trained carrier 5 yet.

-Liang

I'm reposting part of what I said in warfaire and tactics here so that perhaps a dev will read this and understand why so many players hate ogbs.

There are a few reasons why ccp's refusal to deal with ogbs= god mode makes it much easier to do other things with my time. These problems just aren't present from implants or drugs.

1) AltBoosters = Pay to win: Implants and boosters cost isk. (In game currency) They do not require the pay out of real money. Paying for a second account to sit in safe spot in a booster ship does cost real money. Accordingly no matter how much experience I have gained in the market or other isk making in eve that won't matter. I need to pay the extra 15 dollars to get god mode.

I have lots of isk due to learning how to play the game. This has lead to me having 4 clones with pirate implants one set with improved learning implants and another with hg talons. All have various other implants for slots 7-10. I have made as much money from experimenting/learning drugs in eve as i have lost from using them. The ingame economy is a huge boon to eve and learning how to "play" it is a big part of the game.

Play to win with a booster alt pretty much destroys that. That bothers me but I have to say that the extra 15 dollars a month is not in itself prohibitive for me. The other problem is:

2) Alt boosters make the game no fun to play. I think there are 2 general reasons for this.

A) It ruins the immersion. I am not like the mittani where I forget who I am in real life and start thinking I am cearain. But when I am flying around space I do have at least some modicum of immersion that I am a character in a game flying a spaceship. However when i am multiboxing 2 different characters that is completely shot. Completely shot. I am then not a character in a game flying a spaceship, I am a nerd upstairs trying to outspreadsheet other nerds.

B) There is an important difference between a game being challenging and a game just being tedious. Booster alts do not make eve challenging they make it tedious. Finding safespots in all the systems and dragging an alt around everywhere on your roam is not challenging. Any cretin can do that. But it is tedious. Is eve supposed to always be won by the person who can withstand the most tedium?

Drugs and implants are bought with ingame currency and thus are balanced by that currency. If you think implants are risk free
to spend 2.5 billion on a set, ok. use them. I do in low sec and think getting a set should be a goal of new low sec pvpers. Same if you think spending 5 mill isk on a booster that last up to an hour. Having isk to use is part of the game. People *learn* how to make/save isk in eve its a great part of the single shard game and economy.

Using implants and drugs doesn't make the game tedious and it doesn't ruin the immersion of the game either. Booster alts do both.

How do Navy Mindlinks work on strategic cruisers? The patch notes say they boost two links based on the command ship bonus but strategic cruisers have three bonuses.

Are you trying to get rid of mining all together? My Orca Pilots wanna go back to playing WOW now. I think you should look at Rebalancing Titans and other big money ships so that people actually get back in the pilot seat of these beasts. Why you catering to noobs for. This game is a grind and its not supposed to be something that happens overnight. You should be looking at keeping your long term players happy and not just noobs.